This is what autistic people want to say to the ignorant. - Aussie-Nintendo.com Forums

Eternal_Saber · 26-02-2009, 10:52 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DruXJxMqLTA

How would you feel if someone came up to you and said "i have a cure for your [dissability]"?

I would feel violated.

These are a bunch of movie lines. have a good think about them.

These lines are what autistic people (like me) want to say to those who are ignorant and to those what want to "cure" us. ("kill us" would be the more accurate term.)

I put this up NOT to gain sympathy, but to get the quality of life that you all take for granted, and to live with dignity like any other human being.

**TSPhoenix** · 27-02-2009, 12:20 AM

We can get over racism as we understand why skin colour differs, that isn't scary anymore. However we don't understand how the brain works, so when someone's brain is wired differently people can't help but feel a bit uncomfortable. Cure or kill, both appear to be threat reduction to me, make it into something you understand or get rid of it. People aren't very good at dealing with things they don't understand, much less something that nobody understands. Don't take it too personally.

rom_maniac · 27-02-2009, 12:30 AM

I'm sure that there are many people with autism that don't like what it does to them and want to be "cured", as you put it.

I Am The Wind · 27-02-2009, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Eternal_Saber

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DruXJxMqLTA

How would you feel if someone came up to you and said "i have a cure for your [dissability]"?

I would be very grateful and interested as to how I can be cured.

I have my own genetic shortcomings and you don't see me acting like I'm special or unique. If there was a cure to deuteranomaly I'd be all over it.

Bourbanog · 27-02-2009, 01:15 AM

Why do you want to remain stupid, Eternal Sabre? We're just trying to help you.

Eternal_Saber · 27-02-2009, 01:18 AM

I was never stupid in the first place!! Just different!! >_<

piem@n · 27-02-2009, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Eternal_Saber

what if they had a cure to remove your unique traits?

You edited your orignal post, so im replying to that. I paraphrased what you said.

What if that unique-ness was you not having a face? I can see where your coming from, but a cure is not a bad thing if they are trying to improve your quality of life, is it?

rom_maniac · 27-02-2009, 01:26 AM

Why does society try to "cure" murderers and rapists? They're not bad people, they're just different!

If your rebuttal is that they harm others, replace "murderers and rapists" with "solitary drug users, people who look at child pornography and people who practice self-harm".

I Am The Wind · 27-02-2009, 01:31 AM

I'd just like to distance myself from rom_maniac's post.

Eternal_Saber · 27-02-2009, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by rom_maniac

Why does society try to "cure" murderers and rapists? They're not bad people, they're just different!

If your rebuttal is that they harm others, replace "murderers and rapists" with "solitary drug users, people who look at child pornography and people who practice self-harm".

I dont harm myself or others. I dont bother anyone. Dont put me on a criminal's level!

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Originally Posted by piem@n

What if that unique-ness was you not having a face? I can see where your coming from, but a cure is not a bad thing if they are trying to improve your quality of life, is it?

Actualy It wont. These "cures" wont work, and even if they did, I would lose my personality and the abilities I fucus on. Who cares if I were to get more abilities. The Eternal_Saber that you know would die and I will turn into somebody who would only descriminate the rest of the dissabled.

People who provide this "cure" do not think that people with Autism are human.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vYIU78s3jg

We are already human, just a different kind of human.

The people who privide a "miricle" are not autistic people who want the "cure". They just want to get rid of us.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwdlof0kctw

**Mercury** · 27-02-2009, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by rom_maniac

Why does society try to "cure" murderers and rapists? They're not bad people, they're just different!

If your rebuttal is that they harm others, replace "murderers and rapists" with "solitary drug users, people who look at child pornography and people who practice self-harm".

Wait...so murderers and rapists aren't bad people?

I'd hate to see your definition of bad people.

Under certain circumstances your view may be valid, but as a majority i say its pretty incorrect.

Though what is it that defines a bad person? My opinion would be that a 'bad person' would be defined by a majority, and in this case, murderers and rapists, seen as wrong in our society, are indeed bad people.

**Angus** · 27-02-2009, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Eternal_Saber

How would you feel if someone came up to you and said "i have a cure for your [dissability]"?

It'd depend what my disability was and what it impaired.

Autism isn't always a just a 'difference' though, autism can greatly impair a person's ability to normally function and can greatly reduce quality of life depending on the severity. I'm sure many people would jump at and greatly appreciate anything that would 'normalise' (depending on your perspective), or at least 'increase' the brain's ability to function and remove or reduce autism.

Autism isn't something that makes someone less of a person, it's nothing to be ashamed of at all. However, it's not exactly something to have pride in either. It's something that many people have great difficulty living with, and that they'd rid themselves of in a second.

Eternal_Saber · 27-02-2009, 02:04 AM

Sure im not proud of it but im used to it and besides, im talking about the genocide of over 20 million people here.

**Mercury** · 27-02-2009, 02:04 AM

This is like X-men and people wanting to get rid off their powers.

From the people with powers point of view, some want a 'normal life,' and others are positive that they are the way they are for a reason and acknowledge that.

From the people with no powers point of view, some think of 'powers' as a disability and want to help those who need help, others feel that people with powers should live normal lives with their 'power/disability.'

Theres too many variables and stamping one on all of us isn't right. Its not like people with autism think one thing, and people without it think another, everyone thinks differently, and being so called 'different' you should understand that.

Maybe people are just trying to help those who actually feel that autism is a disability on a personal level.

Eternal_Saber · 27-02-2009, 02:10 AM

http://www.aspiesforfreedom.com/

Check out this site. It would clear up what im talking about.

http://autism.about.com/od/inspirati...besttraits.htm

Is this list realy worth a cure?

26-02-2009, 10:52 PM	#1
Eternal_Saber Reggie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albury, NSW Posts: 538	This is what autistic people want to say to the ignorant. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DruXJxMqLTA How would you feel if someone came up to you and said "i have a cure for your [dissability]"? I would feel violated. These are a bunch of movie lines. have a good think about them. These lines are what autistic people (like me) want to say to those who are ignorant and to those what want to "cure" us. ("kill us" would be the more accurate term.) I put this up NOT to gain sympathy, but to get the quality of life that you all take for granted, and to live with dignity like any other human being. __________________ I Love Nintendo! Comprehendo!! ^_^ Last edited by Eternal_Saber; 26-02-2009 at 10:58 PM.

27-02-2009, 12:20 AM	#2
TSPhoenix V.I.P. Join Date: May 2006 Location: Adelaide, SA Posts: 14,315 Blog Entries: 1	We can get over racism as we understand why skin colour differs, that isn't scary anymore. However we don't understand how the brain works, so when someone's brain is wired differently people can't help but feel a bit uncomfortable. Cure or kill, both appear to be threat reduction to me, make it into something you understand or get rid of it. People aren't very good at dealing with things they don't understand, much less something that nobody understands. Don't take it too personally. __________________

27-02-2009, 12:30 AM	#3
rom_maniac Reggie Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 618	I'm sure that there are many people with autism that don't like what it does to them and want to be "cured", as you put it. __________________ rom_maniac

27-02-2009, 01:15 AM	#5
Bourbanog The thick plottens Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Yes Please. Posts: 3,757 Blog Entries: 24	Why do you want to remain stupid, Eternal Sabre? We're just trying to help you. __________________ Brawl FC: 3652-0455-0518

27-02-2009, 01:18 AM	#6
Eternal_Saber Reggie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albury, NSW Posts: 538	I was never stupid in the first place!! Just different!! >_< __________________ I Love Nintendo! Comprehendo!! ^_^

27-02-2009, 01:26 AM	#8
rom_maniac Reggie Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 618	Why does society try to "cure" murderers and rapists? They're not bad people, they're just different! If your rebuttal is that they harm others, replace "murderers and rapists" with "solitary drug users, people who look at child pornography and people who practice self-harm". __________________ rom_maniac

27-02-2009, 01:31 AM	#9
I Am The Wind Tropius used Whirlwind! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Murdoch Uni Posts: 2,967 Blog Entries: 68	I'd just like to distance myself from rom_maniac's post. __________________ pietriots.com - Content now included. Help lift me out of poverty by buying the games I'm selling

27-02-2009, 02:04 AM	#13
Eternal_Saber Reggie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albury, NSW Posts: 538	Sure im not proud of it but im used to it and besides, im talking about the genocide of over 20 million people here. __________________ I Love Nintendo! Comprehendo!! ^_^

27-02-2009, 02:04 AM	#14
Mercury Smooooth Moderatoooorrrrrrr Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Angara, Mercury Light-house Posts: 2,877 Blog Entries: 29	This is like X-men and people wanting to get rid off their powers. From the people with powers point of view, some want a 'normal life,' and others are positive that they are the way they are for a reason and acknowledge that. From the people with no powers point of view, some think of 'powers' as a disability and want to help those who need help, others feel that people with powers should live normal lives with their 'power/disability.' Theres too many variables and stamping one on all of us isn't right. Its not like people with autism think one thing, and people without it think another, everyone thinks differently, and being so called 'different' you should understand that. Maybe people are just trying to help those who actually feel that autism is a disability on a personal level. __________________ Super Smash Bros Brawl FC = 4038-7619-3916

27-02-2009, 02:10 AM	#15
Eternal_Saber Reggie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albury, NSW Posts: 538	http://www.aspiesforfreedom.com/ Check out this site. It would clear up what im talking about. http://autism.about.com/od/inspirati...besttraits.htm Is this list realy worth a cure? __________________ I Love Nintendo! Comprehendo!! ^_^ Last edited by Eternal_Saber; 27-02-2009 at 02:40 AM.

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